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	<title>Comments on: The Island interviews Lesson 9 litigant Aiesha Balde</title>
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		<title>By: Allan Mann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since she is part of the Pacific Justice Institue&#039;s lawsuit, Ms. Balde should look at this article on its website: http://www.pacificjustice.org/content/islam-takes-over-middle-school-curriculum. I think it may give her second thoughts, since it describes the group&#039;s challenge of a middle school curriculum that tried to do for Muslims what AUSD is trying to do for children from LGBT families. Once she sees the article, she might have a change of heart. Perhaps she never thought of it &quot;that way&quot; either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since she is part of the Pacific Justice Institue&#8217;s lawsuit, Ms. Balde should look at this article on its website: <a href="http://www.pacificjustice.org/content/islam-takes-over-middle-school-curriculum" rel="nofollow">http://www.pacificjustice.org/content/islam-takes-over-middle-school-curriculum</a>. I think it may give her second thoughts, since it describes the group&#8217;s challenge of a middle school curriculum that tried to do for Muslims what AUSD is trying to do for children from LGBT families. Once she sees the article, she might have a change of heart. Perhaps she never thought of it &#8220;that way&#8221; either.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 02:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hopeful that Aiesha Balde had not yet thought of it “that way” when asked if she would be willing for gay and lesbian families to enjoy the same visibility she’s fought for Muslim families to have.  I hope she thinks about it some more—seriously reflects in light of the compassion taught by Islam—and sees the inconsistency in denying others the rights she takes to be fundamental.

Having been raised in a conservative religious tradition, I can understand Ms. Balde’s discomfort.  Seeing sexual orientation as one part of our community’s diversity was a process for me.  But if we are to promote mutual tolerance, it’s important to realize that it is precisely the people we’re uncomfortable with who need our tolerance.  

And if we are seeking to protect children of all targeted groups, we need to acknowledge that children who don’t fit gender stereotypes are as vulnerable as Muslim children.  If Ms. Balde were to turn around the terms of the lawsuit she’s been pulled in on, she might think about whether or not teaching about Muslim families is also “health education.”  How would she, and the families she serves, feel if families choose to “opt out” of lessons on her culture?

Finally, I hope Ms. Balde will take a deeper look at her lawsuit’s sponsors, the Pacific Justice Institute, especially their web site, where they boast about opposing Muslim-tolerance curricula in Southern California.

I hope the curriculum advisory experience will be a positive one for Ms. Balde, and participants with similar discomforts, and that they will drop their adversarial attacks in favor of the hopefulness of working together for positive solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hopeful that Aiesha Balde had not yet thought of it “that way” when asked if she would be willing for gay and lesbian families to enjoy the same visibility she’s fought for Muslim families to have.  I hope she thinks about it some more—seriously reflects in light of the compassion taught by Islam—and sees the inconsistency in denying others the rights she takes to be fundamental.</p>
<p>Having been raised in a conservative religious tradition, I can understand Ms. Balde’s discomfort.  Seeing sexual orientation as one part of our community’s diversity was a process for me.  But if we are to promote mutual tolerance, it’s important to realize that it is precisely the people we’re uncomfortable with who need our tolerance.  </p>
<p>And if we are seeking to protect children of all targeted groups, we need to acknowledge that children who don’t fit gender stereotypes are as vulnerable as Muslim children.  If Ms. Balde were to turn around the terms of the lawsuit she’s been pulled in on, she might think about whether or not teaching about Muslim families is also “health education.”  How would she, and the families she serves, feel if families choose to “opt out” of lessons on her culture?</p>
<p>Finally, I hope Ms. Balde will take a deeper look at her lawsuit’s sponsors, the Pacific Justice Institute, especially their web site, where they boast about opposing Muslim-tolerance curricula in Southern California.</p>
<p>I hope the curriculum advisory experience will be a positive one for Ms. Balde, and participants with similar discomforts, and that they will drop their adversarial attacks in favor of the hopefulness of working together for positive solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: John Burke</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Burke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele,

Thank you for this interview and insight into where Ms. Balde is coming from.  Your question about treating gay parents with the same respect that she advocates for Muslim parents showed that she is not committed to equality. Giving Muslim parents rights that you are unwilling to extend to gay parents is bigotry, plain and simple.

Unlike others who have responded, I think it is very unwise for the AUSD to have Ms. Balde participate on any curriculum committee while suing the district.  She isn&#039;t participating as an equal member on such a committee, because she has the power to withdraw from her lawsuit, if she gets what she wants.  This puts all other non-litigant members of the committee at a severe disadvantage.

I thought this new committee was designed to incorporate other protected groups into the curriculum, not to &quot;revamp&quot; Lesson 9.  I sincerely hope that this isn&#039;t some back door way of allowing people like Ms. Balde to &quot;revamp&quot; Lesson 9 out of existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele,</p>
<p>Thank you for this interview and insight into where Ms. Balde is coming from.  Your question about treating gay parents with the same respect that she advocates for Muslim parents showed that she is not committed to equality. Giving Muslim parents rights that you are unwilling to extend to gay parents is bigotry, plain and simple.</p>
<p>Unlike others who have responded, I think it is very unwise for the AUSD to have Ms. Balde participate on any curriculum committee while suing the district.  She isn&#8217;t participating as an equal member on such a committee, because she has the power to withdraw from her lawsuit, if she gets what she wants.  This puts all other non-litigant members of the committee at a severe disadvantage.</p>
<p>I thought this new committee was designed to incorporate other protected groups into the curriculum, not to &#8220;revamp&#8221; Lesson 9.  I sincerely hope that this isn&#8217;t some back door way of allowing people like Ms. Balde to &#8220;revamp&#8221; Lesson 9 out of existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Spangler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Spangler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very glad that Aiesha Balde will be joining the newly-constituted AUSD committee to improve the safer schools curriculum, which was always intended to be fully inclusive of all protected classes and every student in our public schools.

I would hope that she would eventually come to honor having &quot;different&quot; people, including gays and lesbians, visiting her children&#039;s classrooms. It is equally important that other parents honor her presentations of her own faith and culture in the classroom for the same purpose--to educate Alameda&#039;s children about the amazing and rich diversity of our various heritages and experiences.

Will she still pursue the lawsuit now that the new district effort is underway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very glad that Aiesha Balde will be joining the newly-constituted AUSD committee to improve the safer schools curriculum, which was always intended to be fully inclusive of all protected classes and every student in our public schools.</p>
<p>I would hope that she would eventually come to honor having &#8220;different&#8221; people, including gays and lesbians, visiting her children&#8217;s classrooms. It is equally important that other parents honor her presentations of her own faith and culture in the classroom for the same purpose&#8211;to educate Alameda&#8217;s children about the amazing and rich diversity of our various heritages and experiences.</p>
<p>Will she still pursue the lawsuit now that the new district effort is underway?</p>
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		<title>By: Karry Kelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karry Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Ms Balde that it will be good to expand the curriculum to specifically address other groups even though most discussion of most protected classes is already woven through most of the districts curriculum. Is Ms Balde now willing to withdraw her lawsuit against the district for not allowing her children to opt out of Lesson 9 curriculum? If she and the other plaintiffs are successful in their suit, will I be allowed to opt my children out of lessons taught about Muslim, African American or Asian cultures? Or are they just looking for special rights to discriminate against one group? I sincerely hope that she and the other members of the new committee stay focused on adding to the curriculum and not taking away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ms Balde that it will be good to expand the curriculum to specifically address other groups even though most discussion of most protected classes is already woven through most of the districts curriculum. Is Ms Balde now willing to withdraw her lawsuit against the district for not allowing her children to opt out of Lesson 9 curriculum? If she and the other plaintiffs are successful in their suit, will I be allowed to opt my children out of lessons taught about Muslim, African American or Asian cultures? Or are they just looking for special rights to discriminate against one group? I sincerely hope that she and the other members of the new committee stay focused on adding to the curriculum and not taking away.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Irons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Irons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele,

 Thanks for this. This interview is very instructive and Ms. Balde is probably one of the best examples of a conscientious and involved parent who is stating clearly what is for them a conflict in a way that even LGBT supporters can find sympathetic. At least I did.

 Your question at the end about comparing gay parents speaking to kids at school to Muslim parents coming to speak to children is a good one. Many people want to put this issue in a frame of LGBT advocates trying to pedal a life style. If they are opposed to the curriculum I would expect they might violently object to a gay parent speaking directly to kids in the classroom about themselves. 

 But many religions are expressed in strong terms where by proponents view all other religions as seriously wrong headed, and many religious parents go well beyond teaching &quot;this is not what we do&quot; to a full on rejection of other faiths as condemning a person to hell. Yet if we are to teach plurality and diversity in the public schools, how could one argue that it is harmful or wrong to have the facts of these differing religious views explained in an education setting?

 I view homosexuality as a personal manifestation which may have environmental factors, but which is also undoubtedly something many if not most LGBT people simply come to regard as how they are born, and thus is &quot;natural&quot;. Religion on the other hand is something I can relate to as a natural manifestation of human beings longing for a sense of spiritual purpose, but to this agnostic all religion is entirely a fabricated structure of myths created in our minds and therefore is not &quot;natural&quot;. I do not feel my children would be at risk of becoming Catholic by having the religion explained to them in school because Catholic kids were being bullied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele,</p>
<p> Thanks for this. This interview is very instructive and Ms. Balde is probably one of the best examples of a conscientious and involved parent who is stating clearly what is for them a conflict in a way that even LGBT supporters can find sympathetic. At least I did.</p>
<p> Your question at the end about comparing gay parents speaking to kids at school to Muslim parents coming to speak to children is a good one. Many people want to put this issue in a frame of LGBT advocates trying to pedal a life style. If they are opposed to the curriculum I would expect they might violently object to a gay parent speaking directly to kids in the classroom about themselves. </p>
<p> But many religions are expressed in strong terms where by proponents view all other religions as seriously wrong headed, and many religious parents go well beyond teaching &#8220;this is not what we do&#8221; to a full on rejection of other faiths as condemning a person to hell. Yet if we are to teach plurality and diversity in the public schools, how could one argue that it is harmful or wrong to have the facts of these differing religious views explained in an education setting?</p>
<p> I view homosexuality as a personal manifestation which may have environmental factors, but which is also undoubtedly something many if not most LGBT people simply come to regard as how they are born, and thus is &#8220;natural&#8221;. Religion on the other hand is something I can relate to as a natural manifestation of human beings longing for a sense of spiritual purpose, but to this agnostic all religion is entirely a fabricated structure of myths created in our minds and therefore is not &#8220;natural&#8221;. I do not feel my children would be at risk of becoming Catholic by having the religion explained to them in school because Catholic kids were being bullied.</p>
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